Pro-life, and I also oppose abortion for victims of rape and incest

No one should be forced to have a child if they do not want to. There are many reasons people may not be prepared or capable of raising a child. People who have been through rape or incest most definitely should not have to have that child

it is a basic human right for the carrier of a child to have a choice on what they do with their own body. the government should not have the right to decide the future of said individual and potential child. there is no reason and individual should have to go through the 9 month process of pregnancy and give up the next at least 18 years of their life because of something that may have happened out of their control.

many people are stuck in unfortunate situations and i believe that no one should be stripped of their rights to choose whether they want a baby or not in any situation

Each person has the right to choose. Other beliefs shouldn't be imposed on them or their ability to make decisions about their own lives

Women are not cattle, we deserve to have choice over what happens in and to our bodies. Pregnancies for a variety of reasons may need to be terminated eg due to foetal development/ risk of illness, rape survivor, young women getting pregnant accidentally, or just accidents happen.

This is about women's right and control of their body, not rights of a foetus that also has a 25% chance of not surviving as it is and not for men to decide how women look after their bodies and make decisions.

It's a choice and a basic human right, regardless of the circumstances. Victims of rape and incest are mentally, emotionally and physically impacted for the rest of their lives & should not CONTINUE to have their choices taken away from them anymore than they've already had to endure.

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Pregnant people have the right to make their own decision about their bodies and their lives. This is a fundamental human right.

Why should a woman be forced to live with the traumatic event and then find themselves financially vulnerable while raising a child that was forced upon them

If someone have been raped and feel uncomfortable giving birth or keeping a child that have made in a way they never want to happen to someone they should be allowed to abort and shouldn't be forced to give birth to a baby they dont want its their body others should decide whether they keep a baby or not

I think that abortion should be allowed because women are the ones who are carrying the child and if they aren't allowed an abortion it could seriously impact there mental and physical health. A woman should NOT be FORCED to carry a child to term if they do not want it or are a victim of rape.

Valuing a woman’s physical and mental health less than a bundle of cells is horrific and why are we still discussing this.

Why should a woman have to hold & birth a reminder of mamae? Why should she have to carry to term a product of an attack in which she had no choice. & even if it weren’t a product of attack, why should her body be controlled by the government. All women deserve bodily autonomy.

We need to think of the emotional and psychological impact on the mothers in the position forced to have a baby when they are not ready or due to severe abuse/trauma. This creates an ongoing negative impact which creates a vicious cycle of mental health problems in both parent and child and more likely drug use and the potential for more violence in the future. Everyone deserves the right to choose.

It is a basic human right for a woman to be in control over her own body, the government shouldn't choose for her over something she had now power over in the first place. The mental draining of giving birth to the child of a rapist will force her to never forget such a traumatic event.

It is a basic human right for a woman to be in control over her own body, the government shouldn't choose for her over something she had now power over in the first place. The mental draining of giving birth to the child of a rapist will force her to never forget such a traumatic event.

There should be no need for a counter argument, an abortion is a human right, it should never be not allowed.

One counterargument to the "pro-life, no exceptions for rape and incest" position on abortion is that it may not adequately consider the physical and emotional trauma that victims of rape and incest endure.

Forcing these individuals to carry a pregnancy to term could compound their suffering and potentially lead to long-lasting psychological harm.

Advocates for choice argue that allowing exceptions in such cases respects the autonomy and well-being of the survivors and acknowledges the complexity of their situations.

This is going to increase child neglect and abuse because the parents won’t want the child, it will also cause suffer and pain to the mother who now needs to pay for a child she was forced to have

Women should be allowed to have autonomy over their own body. This should not even be under debate for those who don’t have a uterus or those who aren’t going to be involved in the care for the mother or potential child.

It is a basic human right for a woman to be in control over her own body, the government shouldn't choose for her over something she had now power over in the first place. The mental draining of giving birth to the child of a rapist will force her to never forget such a traumatic event.

It is a woman’s right to choose-there is no one answer for all.What impacts greatly on one person may not be so impactful on another.

Your body your choice. No one should have to keep a few clumped up cells if they can’t afford it, it puts their health or the clump of cells health at risk and in Cases of rape or incest should really be allowed to get abortions as it’s a reminder of what they’ve been through. Anyone who is pro-life needs a boot up the arse.

I believe if the parents are not in a situation to provide the love, financial support, and family support to care for the child, they should have the choice to stop the pregnancy while the “baby” is still very few cells big.

It’s not your decision what someone else does with their life and body. If someone doesn’t feel ready to give a child the life they deserve, it is better to get an abortion than to have the child and they live a life of depression, abuse, financial instability or familial instability.

No one should be made to bring up a child that they had no choice in having and a constant reminder of the rape

Government should not be able to dictate what woman do with their bodies, it is an invasion of privacy.

It's a choice and a basic human right, regardless of the circumstances. Victims of rape and incest are mentally, emotionally and physically impacted for the rest of their lives & should not CONTINUE to have their choices taken away from them anymore than they've already had to endure.

Pro choice - some aren’t in a position to mentally or financially take on a child most women are aware of this and can make the choice on their own. Forcing a child to grow up in a bad situation will cause problems in the future. If a child had the face of your rapist it wouldn’t bring joy or motivation to take proper care of the child. Let them choose.

It's not a baby yet especially under 12 weeks. The world is a difficult place everyone is doing their best and there are many reasons to not continue with an unwanted pregnancy. Forcing it can cause more mental health issues and we already have a mental health crisis on our hands

How can the rights of an unborn embryo in the earlier stages of gestation be more important to someone than the lives of the person that is carrying it? Insane to me.

Women are at risk of death and should have complete control over their life and their own private decisions

That’s a women has the right to choose and the health or the women is most important, mental and physical health

A woman is not just an incubator or a brood-mare; she should not be subjected to the harrowing secondary ordeal of being forced to carry her rapist or abuser’s child.

Women are not cattle, we deserve to have choice over what happens in and to our bodies. Pregnancies for a variety of reasons may need to be terminated eg due to foetal development/ risk of illness, rape survivor, young women getting pregnant accidentally, or just accidents happen.

How many of those people have been in a position where they are pregnant by rape or incestuous abuse? If they have not been in that position then their opposition to abortion because of those reasons has nothing to do with them. Be in that awful position and then see how you feel.

By bringing an unwanted child into the world, it is creating an unwanted child as well as an adult who may become financially, mentally, and physically unstable due to the cost of children and the pregnancy & birth of the unwanted child. It is also a devastating to have to give birth to a child who you may have wanted in future but not right now and by being Pro- Life, you are removing these rights and saying a Fetus’ life is more important than a functioning living adult.

The decision to do abortion is solely the person who carries the child. It is entirely their right to be in control of their own body, no one should have to face the product of something they didn't have control over.

Not allowing a women to choose whether she births a child or not is not up for debate. Regardless of the way she became pregnant she gets to decide what the future holds for herself, always.

The decision to terminate a pregnancy is the woman's choice period. This stance forces people to have children who are born due to a hateful circumstance but there is no support for the person after. Others project their views but are not there to support the person when they need it. This policy criminalises the victim.

It should be the woman’s choice. It wasn’t her choice to be raped and then have to carry and birth a reminder of that horrible person. It is her body, her choice.

Pro choice is the only fair way. We cannot be pro life and not invest more money in under privileged children

women make up such a large percentage of this country, why should their medical rights be stripped down to their ability to create life. forcing a woman to have a child regardless of her situation wether it be unplanned, a product of rape or incest is not only barbaric, but also sends out the message that NZ only considers women baby making machines. This is entirely wrong. the right to abortion is health care. provide healthcare to those who need it. men do not have to go through half of what women go through in order to get preventative measures such as birth control, or their tubes tied.…  Read more men can decide they want a vasectomy with no issue. This is not right, young women deserve to be receiving health care including and not limited to sexual health. why should a human being be forced to carry a baby to term when they have expressed that they do not want, cannot afford and also cannot care for this child. forcing a woman to carry a child to term not only puts this person at risk, but also will decrease the quality of life the child will recieve.

Why should a woman, who may not even be financially stable enough to take care of herself, have to raise a baby who either she did not consent to the action of making, of she protected herself properly against conceiving? All this means is that the child will grow up in a poor environment, eating bad food, getting sick or worse without standard necessities as they are unaffordable for the mother. Plus whilst the mother is pregnant and post natal she may be on the benefit, creating an unnecessary waste of the taxpayers hard earned money

no one should have a day in what anyone does with their bodies, to simply put it, it doesn't effect you, you should be allowed to have the choice. I am pro-choice because I don't think there is any reason why a woman should have to face all the consequences from something she did not do alone. If a guy can get a woman pregnant and then run away, there is no reason why she should be the one responsible for everything. Having more options puts a woman on more equal footing with men, instead of being someone of whom they can take advantage. In addition, I believe that it is best for a child to not be born at all than to be born hated, to a mother who is forced to have him because she has no choice, and not because she wants the child.

It's a choice and a basic human right, regardless of the circumstances. Victims of rape and incest are mentally, emotionally and physically impacted for the rest of their lives & should not CONTINUE to have their choices taken away from them anymore than they've already had to endure.

Expecting a woman to carry an fetus full term after sexual assault is itself me tal and physical torture and inhumane.
Women have the right to reign over their own bodies

It is everyones personal choice if they happen to be in that position, you cannot make that rule for everyone and make that choice about their body for them

The mental health of a living women should trump the unborn foetus, even more so when the foetus is a result of an abhorrent criminal act. The woman has already suffered one horrible injustice, she must not have to endure another.

You keep religion to yourself. We live in a non secular society and as such no one faith has the right to force its beliefs on any other. Laws are for all and should be religion neutral.

Having the baby could ruin someones life or multiple peoples lives. Puts more pressure on foster care systems that doesnt have to exist in the first place. Pushes people into a world where maybe they are adopted by an abusive family or in abusive foster homes. Baby could have genetic defects from incest or would be subjected to the trauma of the assault from their parent

Woman should have the right to do with their body whatever they want, especially in the case of rape as it not only takes a physical toll on the woman but also mental meaning it should be completely up to her on what she decides to do with her body

Thats bs, abortion should be available to all. Carrying a child of your rapist is cruel and abusive.

Pro-choice means it’s someone choice what they do with their body? Again, nobody should have a say on what someone else does with their body, it is next level controlling and selfish.

The already detrimental effects on the victim of incest and rape for the rest of their lives do not need to be exacerbated by a constant reminder of having the child if they do not wish. It wasn’t a choice for them to be a victim, it would be inhumane and criminal of the government to take away their choice about what happens to their body/foetus after a crime.

put yourself in the person who is affected shoes, they didnt choose this so why should you choose what they have to do. give them a voice.

Victims of rape should not be traumatised more by being forced into parenthood where it is very likely they will end up in poverty

I’m pro choice not pro life, if a baby is conceived via rape that women has the right to terminate the baby.

Why should someone that has been the truma of rape have to bring a life into the world as a result. And have to relive it everyday from then on.

A woman has the right to choose, especially during an unwanted pregnancy. This could cause harm to both mother and baby as well as a trend of post pregnancy health issues such as PND. What sort of life would an unwanted baby have?

Your body, your choice. You have no right to tell a pregnant woman what she can or cannot do with her body regardless of your belief system.

**** THAT! It's unfair to the woman who have been put in the position unwillingly to have a baby to a criminal. Having a child costs alot of money and puts alot of mental strain on the Woman. A woman should be able to make a choice for what she wants to do with her body. **** all the religious bull **** that some white man made up. It's absolute bull **** .

The church is not in charge of a woman’s body. Spirits are pro woman. God does not exist nether does his rules.

A woman should have ownership of her own body, having an abortion doesn’t hurt anyone else but not having one could ruin her. Her life first, before the unborn.

Why the **** shouldn’t someone have a right particularly where it is a health risk and freedom risk. Kids get rape and pregnant, why should we risk their life for something that isn’t even a being until around 12 weeks.

Women should have the right to make any decision regarding their body. Carrying a child to full term that was created from rape or incest would be more traumatic for the women.

Do you believe you have a choice to vaccinate? If so that’s body autonomy, you are making a decision based on your self governance of your body. Your idea of my body does not trump my right to control choices of my body. Particularly as I do don’t share any religious beliefs that maybe influencing your decision

It is a basic human right to have control over your own body. Why should I have to be forced to carry a fetus that is a result of abuse? Why should I be forced to carry a fetus that will cause irreparable damage and trauma due to the result of said abuse? I am a human being and nobody else should have any say over my body.

Why should a woman have to hold & birth a reminder of mamae? Why should she have to carry to term a product of an attack in which she had no choice. & even if it weren’t a product of attack, why should her body be controlled by the government. All women deserve bodily autonomy.

This is a decision you have made for yourself and I hope to God you will never be in a position to actually hove to make that choice. However having to create a person (an embryo in the early stages can not be called a person - it will become with time but currently it is not) that you do not want to mother, that you do not have the capability to raise at it deserves to be raised, and that might traumatise you further, causing two lives to be ruined in the process is not a law that is ever practically enforceable. Women have found a way to abort unwanted births forever and the only thing we…  Read more have a say about is how safe we want the them to be in that case. If you really want to reduce the number of abortions happening, concentrate on introducing more legislation that will support parents, more safe-sex education, and free birth control. For a moment imagine yourself being a young girl at that crossroad, having to make that choice, and don't play the scenario out in your favour, but imagine the worst case scenario, and after the baby is born imagine everything going even more wrong (depression, you loose your job, you have no community to support you, etc. ) - Come back to your current self - Do you really want to be responsible for someone having to life through all that? I do not. The choice will never be yours, but what you can choose is to either be a support to people who really need support in that moment, or you can be a distant oppressor, probably so removed from the women you try to rule over that unfortunately you will never have to face the consequences of your actions.

Why should anyone else get to decide what a woman does with her own body especially a man. Anyone who does not immediately know the woman involved should have no say it wether or not she gets an abortion. Abortion should be free for those who have been raped of are a victim of incest. Those who rape another person should be put in prison and sterilised permanently.

The government shouldn’t be able to make decisions on my body, whether it be rape, incest, or choice.

If you force that onto a women that simply does not want that child it is simply going to grow up in a life of neglect. And adoption isn’t always an option. Plus they still have to carry that child and that isn’t easy for all women.
It is a matter of their body their choice. If you’re basing it on religious views god himself wiped out most of humanity. There are multiple versus in the bible that show that god himself doesn’t seem so ‘pro-life’.
It is a shame that some people want to get an abortion for no real reason but it has to be their choice as their life comes first.

That child born could ruin the mother's life and the child could end up in the foster system, which is already a problamatic system and anyone with the opinion above is a horrible person

It is a basic human right for a woman to be in control over her own body, the government shouldn't choose for her over something she had now power over in the first place. The mental draining of giving birth to the child of a rapist will force her to never forget such a traumatic event.

If you don’t possess a uterus, it’s not your place to dictate what a woman wants to do with hers. And regarding no exceptions for rape and incest, there’s very few crimes where the government explicitly mandates that the victim must live with the consequences of the offender’s actions when those consequences are potentially stoppable. Additionally, she didn’t ask to be raped and impregnated, so she should not be forced to carry the child to term.

It is a basic human right for a woman to be in control over her own body, the government shouldn't choose for her over something she had now power over in the first place. The mental draining of giving birth to the child of a rapist will force her to never forget such a traumatic event.

A woman should have unilateral choice over decisions about her body. We are not America. Old white males who should have used a condom should not decide for me. Women have a brain.

To have the option available and legalised to safely get this procedure done. Have requirements for the procedure, but the choice should be available and legalised.

absolutely unacceptable, people have the right to make their own choice for their own bodies just as they do in any other aspect of their healthcare. they should have the choice in any situation, ESPECIALLY in cases of rape and incest

Everyone should have a choice. The minority of people that practice unsafe sex and are terminating pregnancies should not impact those that have not had a choice in the matter, they have been abused, and to carry that abuse with them physically for the rest of their life is not fair. They already have the mental burden of what has happened to them.

Banning abortion does not stop abortion, it just creates unsafe abortions, so why not allow the right to women’s body’s and let them do what they want.

Unless the politicians that are pushing this forward are medical professionals and woman who are currently pregnant with their rapists baby, then they should not get a say in the decisions a woman makes for her own body. If the male politicians are willing to make a law saying that all men over the age of 18 must have vasectomies until they and their future partner sign off on a reversal surgery, then no one should be discussing taking away a woman's right to her own body. If this is religion based then it is also extremely unprofessional to bring that into politics as the world doesn&rs…  Read morequo;t revolve around white christian men and their God that not everyone believes in and in saying that, whoever wants to deny woman of their right to say what happens to their body then they will be going to hell. I can almost guarantee non abortion laws wouldn’t be an option if it were men that got pregnant instead.

People are entitled to make their own health decisions and to have their own opinions but not to make decisions for others. One persons opinion shouldn’t stop another form receiving health care

Absolutely disgusting that anyone else thinks they have the right to tell someone what to do with their own body. It should be the women's choice ALWAYS and there should always be available resources for them to choose.

Women should not be forced to go through unwanted and possibly traumatic or unsafe pregnancy. Don't go American on us, we're better than that.

Not fair. People should have the right to choose if tyhey bring life into the world and if it was due to unfortuanate circumstances due to rape or incest what gives the right for the parent to have the baby when it is tied with unfortunate negative connotations.

Control and regulation of women's bodies should not be anyone's priority. Too many factors exist that contribute to why a person might not be in a position to be forced to raise a child they don't want and unless the government is willing to fund that child's care they should not be forcing its birth on the mother.

It is a woman's body. She has to carry the child for 9 months, not to mention a man could also just walk out of the child's life, whereas the woman cannot, and often doesn't. There are also other reasons, such as they may not have enough income to raise a child, the woman could be to young, and she could have been raped! She did not ask for the child, therefore she shouldn't have to keep it. AGAIN, it is the woman's body. SHE decides what she wants to do with it. SHE decides whether she keeps the child or not. It should not be up to a man who has no empathy, compassion, or past experience in ANYTHING to do with a woman's body to make the decision to ban abortion.
PRO-CHOICE IS BETTER
**** THE MEN WHO THINK OTHERWISE

First of all, you are not one of these victims. You will never know what's best for someone other than yourself. You would say no to something you don't want. They did not get this opportunity then, so therefore they must get this opportunity of choice, and decision on their future and their lives.

There are enough children who don't have the support they deserve why force women into situations that will force more children into these situations