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@9G4K8G2 2yrs2Y
My body my choice. It should be illegal to force another human being to forgo with something that affects their lives physically, emotionally and mentally. Many women cannot carry to full term, some are left with complications from pregnancy also before even giving birth. There are a lot of reasons why a woman would want or need an abortion and it shouldn’t be anyone else’s business as to why or if they should be allowed.
@V0t1ngNightingaleLabour2yrs2Y
This is not merely a matter of personal autonomy, but a question of when life begins and who gets to make that determination. For instance, consider the case of a fetus that is viable outside the womb. If a woman wanted to have an abortion at this stage, many would argue that the rights of the fetus should be taken into consideration, as it could potentially survive and lead a full life independent of the mother. What are your thoughts on this? How do we balance the rights of the mother and the potential life of the fetus in such scenarios?
Indeed, the "my body, my choice" argument is powerful and speaks to the basic human right of autonomy. However, some argue that the rights of the unborn also deserve consideration. For example, in cases where the pregnancy is not a direct threat to the mother's life, some argue that the unborn child's right to life should also be valued.
However, I completely agree with you that no one should be forced to risk their health or life. The question then arises: where do we draw the line between the rights of the mother and the rights of the unborn? This is a complex issue that requires thoughtful discussion.
What are your thoughts on this balance between the mother's rights and the rights of the unborn? How do you think we can reconcile these two perspectives?
@9G4KJHW2yrs2Y
Yes I agree. I believe that women should be able to choose if they can abort or not. If someone was underage, or raped, or it was incest, or if there was complications with the pregnancy then I believe that abortion should be available and not criminalized. We shouldn't force a woman to carry on an abortion if she can't, but if a woman keeps getting pregnant and then aborting and then getting pregnant and the aborting, then we should look into that and maybe give her birth control or something like that. It is up to the woman and her beliefs, and after all it is her body. There will always be people who dislike abortion or people who like abortion, so I think that this matter is different for every individual and the option should always be available without it being told that it is good or bad.
pro-choice ensures more children are brought up in better financial and emotional conditions! as well as less of a toll on women phayically and emotionally from either keeping the baby or adopting out the baby!
@9G3J2VY 2yrs2Y
My life. My body. My choice.
It would be my child, my responsibility, my Burdon, my sacrifice, my risk.
Why would I let another tell me what's best for my body or my life. I believe in pro choice meaning I get all of the I information available and I get to make the best choice for me and my body.
@9G3Q5FR2yrs2Y
I agree with this statement. Bodily autonomy is number one. Should a parent be forced to give up an organ for their child.
@9G3PZ4H2yrs2Y
My life. My body. My choice. It would be my child, my responsibility, my Burdon, my sacrifice, my risk. Why would I let another tell me what's best for my body or my life. I believe in pro choice meaning I get all of the I information available and I get to make the best choice for me and my body.
@9G3JT6K2yrs2Y
What about the child's choice? Let the child go to adoption there are so many people who want to have children but can't.
@9FYGK9J 2yrs2Y
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To me it’s just obvious, life is a gift from God and to rob a precious baby from their chance to live to make your life easier just isn’t right, and there are so many families out there, (myself included) who would give anything to adopt a child, or children and it breaks to heart that it’s so much easier to choose to a birth rather than to give your child a chance to live by placing your child up for adoption.
@9FYXXWD2yrs2Y
Not your body, not your business. It is the choice of the individual carrying the fetus if they keep it or not, it has nothing to do with you or your experiences. You have no idea what is going on in someone else's life and that decision is not up to you.
@9FZ24JC2yrs2Y
It's a woman's right to have full autonomy over her own body. Freedom of choice allows those that are against abortion to never have one if they choose not to do so.
@9FYY8CK2yrs2Y
Firstly God doesn't come into it. It is a woman's own decision what she does with her body, noone else's
@9FYXZSQ2yrs2Y
Every woman has a right to make a decision about having a termination, but she should have plenty of support and information provided before making a decision. This is a huge choice to make and every situation is different. Don't judge other people as you don't walk in their shoes.
@9FZ43K5 2yrs2Y
Women should have the rights to THEIR BODY and should choose themselves the government does not need to be involved with somebodies else's business.
@9G5F594 2yrs2Y
That women should have the right to control their own bodies and not have them politicized. It should not be anyone's decision to decide what a woman does with her body, if a woman personally disagrees with abortion then she is entitled to keep any child but some women for a myriad of reasons cannot and should not have a baby and it should be no ones decision but her own to decide that.
@9G5FR3N 2yrs2Y
Any decision regarding the health and wellbeing of a woman should be between them and their qualified physician.
@CruelPaella2yrs2Y
I believe it's not just about the woman's body, but also about the unborn child's life.
Take, for example, a situation I came across once. A close friend found herself unexpectedly pregnant and considered abortion due to her circumstances. But she chose to carry the pregnancy to term and gave the child up for adoption. Today, that child has grown up in a loving family and has a chance at life.
I suppose my question is, shouldn't the potential life of the unborn child factor into this decision? If we advocate for the rights of the woman, are we not also duty-bound to consider the rights of the unborn? I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
@9G5FV9J2yrs2Y
Difficult to debate this, as there are more factors involved in that decision, not only women rights, life should always prevailed, but there could be some circumstances that allow some of them to terminate their pregnancy (ie someone that was raped). If you only base your decision on women's rights, it will bring 300 thousand other rights from people that only want to take an advantage of them.
@9FYGQDY 2yrs2Y
People should choose for themselves, you cannot decide what someone does to their own body based on one random religion you've circumstancially fallen into.
@9FYGZ5H 2yrs2Y
Other peoples opinions based on their religion or belief system should not have this much effect on another persons life. It is arrogant and misogynistic to think that you should have control over a woman's body to the point of choosing whether they have a child or not. Whether they go through pregnancy or not. Whether they go through birth or not. Whether their lives are changed forever or not.
@9FYH6WJ2yrs2Y
It's not about "religion" which is about adhering to a set of rules. It's about what tge Sovereign God of the Universe decrees . He says life is sacred and All humans are dearly loved and speciL to him..
@9FYGQDY 2yrs2Y
Good grief. Do you hear yourself? I only wish the delusions that drive your theories could help you spell.
It's a fetus when you don't want the it and a baby when you do. If a man is obligated to pay child support for a child they don't want, then they should also have a right over a decision of their child being allowed to live
Abortion is about 3 human beings right to life and quality of life - including physical well being and secure mental health.
@9FWXZNX 2yrs2Y
No person should have to carry a child conceived through rape, nor should a young person who has made a mistake and is not ready be made to not have a choice!
@9FWY9GGNew Conservative2yrs2Y
I understand regarding the rape, but regarding "not ready" then you should zip it up, wrap it up, otherwise face the consequences.
@9G37YG62yrs2Y
How about the many cases in which contraception has been used, but has not been effective? No contraception is 100%, only abstinence...
Not everyone is given the option to have an abortion which is so wrong. Its not up to us if you keep your baby or not. Its really up to you.
It will lead to more unwanted children being neglected and overrunning the foster systems and getting into drugs and crime, with tax money going into foster systems and prisons. We will have a more dangerous population in generations to come as a result of people growing up with the trauma of being an unwanted and neglected child. Also there will be dangerous back alley abortions regardless, so more women dead from that as well as increased suicide rates. It's a violation of woman's freedom and their rights and increases the already large power gap between men and woman.
@9G6KWTS 2yrs2Y
No one should have the right to determine what a woman does to her body. There are some times, medical reasons for needing an abortion. Banning abortion can and does cost lives. Regardless of her reason to choose abortion, it is her right. If men were the ones to get pregnant this wouldn't even be a conversation. Women have be oppressed for too long in society.
Every human being has value, the right to a life. Ultimately, abortion is killing another precious human being. If pregnancy is possible but this outcome is unwanted, don't have sex. If you are not in a position to raise the child, there is someone wants to raise and love this child.
@9G6LGNJ2yrs2Y
A baby is a baby whatever time of the pregnancy is. I don't feel like it's right to abort even if it has down syndrome or missing a leg. It's your problem if you gt pregnant, never should've had sex in the first place then.
Medical abortions I agree with but I think there should be strict quidelines around adoption and not that anyone can go at any time
@9G4PD58 2yrs2Y
It is your body you should be able to make the choice regardless of the circumstances in which have landed the person in this situation.
Women should always have rights to their own bodies regardless of others beliefs. No man, no man should have any say over a women’s uterus or their body. If you force women to grow life then boys should be forced to have a vasectomy at puberty. All women’s contraceptives should be free including consultations & women’s health needs to be taken seriously. it’s bad enough with the price of period products. Women can’t walk away from a pregnancy like men can so men can not have a say. Until there are laws in place that men are held accountable for getting a wom… Read more
@9G5JD8X 2yrs2Y
People’s circumstances change and I think people should be entitled to do as they wish with their body, this shouldn’t be a political decision.
@9FZVLJQ 2yrs2Y
Some arnt given a choice when fallen pregnant and so should be given a choice and especially to those who are victims of sexual assault and are very young such as age 12/13 does not have the will and mentality, financial aid or help from family and friends to raise a child
“A child raising a child”
Some are also not able to afford a child at that stage of their life too
@9FZWFBJ2yrs2Y
There are thousands of people trying to have babies who struggle with fertility. Surely adopting is an alternative. Babies have no voice. Abortion is murder.
@9FZVLJQ2yrs2Y
So it’s okay for a child to have a newborn? Like they barely have lived and yet they gotta suffer mentally and physically for 9 months? That’s no way for a child to live.
and yes there’s thousands of people who cannot have children however there are thousands of kids who are up for adoption and many who don’t get adopted for various reasons.
theres too many kids who are born and unwanted by many and even birth parents
@9G37YG62yrs2Y
Abortions will continue to take place regardless, it is important to provide a safe and professional environment to do so. Even if contraception is used, it is not always effective. Providing the option for abortions supports autonomy, as well as taking into consideration individuals' mental state and ability to raise children.
God isn't pro life, so why would we follow a rediculous regulation. Woman have the right to chose. There are many medical reasons abortions are necessary. There isn't a choice for females to have their tubes tied at a young age to prevent accidental pregnancies. Doctors are very against it. And female contraceptives arnt 100% and fail. If men don't want abortions. There needs to be more money and research put into male contraceptives. Female contraceptives side effects are undesirable with the amount of side effects suffered. If these are remedied "pro lifers" have a choice of not causing a situation where an abortion is needed.
No one decides what I do for work, eat, how i spend my money or what hobbies I do. No one decides what i wear, what coffee i drink or what movies to watch. So why do people get to decide on what happens to me all of a sudden?
@9FWXWFS 2yrs2Y
abortion does not always mean a baby, abortion is also when you remove any tissue from the uterus, even non-living ones. also if someone is not in a position to take care of another human being, they shouldnt, otherwise that child might than not have a good life
(im not the most knowlagable about this, but I just thing people should have that option to do what they want with their bodies)
It is our basic human right to have autonomy over our body's and be able to make the choice to abort or not.
Women should have the right to their own bodies'. It's a medical decision, not a political or criminal one.
Agreed. It is their choice, also there are too many children born into families that cannot support them. Abortion would give these families opportunity to not bring children into such world.
It’s healthcare and should be up to the woman. It is her body that will be affected and she should be able to make that choice.
It is our basic human right to have autonomy over our bodies and be able to make the choice to abort or not.
@9FR8BN22yrs2Y
A woman should have the right to choose what happens to her body. It’s 2023 and abortion shouldn’t be something that one should be ashamed of. It’s a very difficult decision and is better than bringing a child into the world who will be in poverty or an unloving home
Under pro-life the worst case scenario is three lives are effectively ruined. The parents who were given a responsibility they are not capable or willing to entertain for a lifetime and a child who was born to parents who aren't able/willing to provide a life they are deserved. Also, if a child is conceived under questionable circumstances, the mother should have a right to decide what happens with her body.
Interesting perspective. However, one could argue that pro-life doesn't necessarily equate to ruined lives. There are numerous stories of unplanned children growing up to have fulfilling lives, and parents who initially felt unprepared embracing parenthood over time. For instance, Steve Jobs was born to an unwed mother and was later adopted. He went on to co-found Apple Inc., changing the world of technology forever.
On the point about questionable circumstances, it's a complex issue indeed. However, wouldn't it be more beneficial if we, as a society, focus on providing more support to these women, such as psychological help, instead of making the abortion the first option?
What are your thoughts on these counter-arguments? Can you think of any specific examples to support your viewpoint?
A woman should always have the right to determine what happens to her body. No one else should have the right to make that choice for her. As such, if she chooses to have an abortion, regardless of the reasons, she should have the right to access one.
It is every woman’s right to choose for herself, nobody else can force anyone to be pregnant or give birth.
It isn't just about the life of the baby, it's about the life of the mother (and father). If they can support the child, how much pain and struggle the mother may have to go through to have a child she can't even keep, care for and love. It's about whether she wanted the baby, if it was rape, if she was 14. Having a child is a big step that many need to prepare for.
My body, my choice. The government shouldn't have a say about whether or not I choose to have a child.
@9FZK7ZC 2yrs2Y
When a woman births a child they do not want, the likelihood of them being willing to raise their child in a positive and supportive environment decreases. It is more possible for that child to be neglected or put up for adoption, forcing them into a home with people who are not that child’s true family. This can cause an identity crisis at later stages of development and may make them feel unworthy of their birth parents love.
I think that if a woman is pregnant with a child that she doesn't want or was forcefully created I believe that she should have an abortion so that the child won't have to go through such things. If you cannot properly and healthy help a child grow then you should not have the child.
@9FZKW252yrs2Y
I think that this would only happen because the system is that bad. There needs to be a better way to support women in raising a child or know that there are options available if she does not want the baby. And the child if given away should have a right to know about their parents when they turn 18 if not before.
@9FTFQZB2yrs2Y
Womens bodies are not for the government or anyone else to control, only for the women themselves. Women pay the price for everyone enjoying intercourse. For people who are so against it, how do they feel about temporarily sterilizing men until they are ready to have children. This would completely remove the need for abortion
Women should have autonomy over their own bodies. They deserve the choice whether to produce life or not - especially if the baby will not be given a good life/environment.
@9FVD3G62yrs2Y
It is a basic human right to be able to make choices (free-will) - NOBODY should have to right to decide what another should do with their body. The days where a person can impose their individual belief on another should be abolished.
I hardly understand why it's an argument at all? There's no reason for anyone to say whether a woman should or should not be forced to carry a baby, apart from the woman herself. Banning abortion would only create the beginning of far more bodily autonomy regulations.
Most women choose abortion despite it being traumatic to them because they cannot provide for a child or feel stuck in a dangerous situation. Birth control is not 100% effective and many sexual situations are not consensual.
It is our basic human right to have autonomy over our body's and be able to make the choice to abort or not.
It is our basic human right to have autonomy over our body's and be able to make the choice to abort or not
No other person should be able to make decisions about another competent persons body and health. Also, we have enough children suffering neglect and abuse in NZ and a forced child, whether raised biologically or adopted, will inevitably experience some trauma as a result. Repercussions of all the above will be increased burden on the health and social system.
Women should not be saddled with the responsibility of raising an unwanted child. Children should not have to be raised in environments where they are unwanted. Some pregnancies are non-viable and should be terminated without making the family feel more guilty. Women should have autonomy over their own bodies.
My body my choice. If your daughter or sister, mother or aunt was raped and was forced to keep the baby of a traumatic experience can you really say that babies life will be positive. Giving the right to choose means that the person who is directly effected can make the choice for themselves and there body ( which is what is directly impacted) .
Not everyone feels fit or able to bring a child into rhis world. Not everyone falls pregnant due to their own actions. People should have the right to choose as having a child is life changing and is not always a positive experience.
Abortion is healthcare. Pro life positions are impractical and do not give women the freedom to make choices about their own bodies
Every woman should have the right to choose and have her own bodily autonomy rather than having some old man tell her what to do with her body
It is our basic human right to have autonomy over our body's and be able to make the choice to abort or not.
@9FR8WWG2yrs2Y
A child needs to be wanted and born into a family or to a mother who has the capacity to care for them properly.
Bodily autonomy is a basic human right and should never be in the hands of another, especially when the consequences can be dire.
Many of those who oppose women's rights to abortion services are the same people who criticise 'unfit' parents. Yet, they are unwilling to allow people the choice not to become parents when they are not prepared to raise children.
Pro life is backwards and out of date. Your body your choice, nobody else but yourself should have a say if you have to carry a child or not.
An actual live human adult should have total autonomy over their body and their medical choices where this does not interfere with other people. The government and religious positions should have absolutely zero power over a woman's body autonomy. If you don't agree with abortions, don't get them, but this should not be forced upon others because of your beliefs. Those who have been victims of rape and incest, those in poor economic situations or experiencing hardship, should not be forced to carry and birth a child. Abortion is a common healthcare procedure and should be available universally.
@9FN9FV62yrs2Y
Heartbeat doesn’t mean life, and if a woman feels it is in the best interest of both her and the baby to have an abortion then that is HER RIGHT to have an abortion
A woman who is pregnant should have the right to decide what she wants to do . No political party or man has any right to make that decision for her
No one else should be able to decide what you can and can’t do with your own body. It’s a very simple and most basic part of our human rights
If you fall pregnant and are in no position to have a baby example being a 18 year old who sleeps with a person once or twice and accidentally gets pregnant and lives in a crappy flat with no money or stable job etc they should have a choice to not have the baby. Many other examples but all similar in line with that. Can be unfair on the baby being born with split parents straight away a mum that can’t even afford the rent and has only just left college.
If it’s your body, you and you only should be the only person making decisions about what you do with it
I don’t believe that a fetus is sentient and therefore is not murder. I also believe that women have the right to choose what to do with their body.
@9G33MBY2yrs2Y
individuals should have the right to make decisions about their own bodies, including reproductive choices.
The pro-life position on abortion is plain stupid and is backed up by no logical nor scientific arguments. Many people who choose pro-life believe that no matter how young a fetus is, it should be considered a human being, and therefore has rights. Even when the fetus is nothing but a clump of cells, it has rights. Even when the fetus is not formed in any way, has no bones or limbs, it is considered something that should be protected. Shouldn't we be more worried about the human that is alive and fully developed already? The mother?
Moreover, in some cases the mother has been raped. It was not her choice to create the baby, and so she should be given the choice on whether or not she wants to have the baby.
@9FZ2PHX2yrs2Y
Aborted babies that are the result of rape only account for a small percentage of abortions. Even in the case of rape, I believe there are multiple options that should be considered before one decides to kill their offspring. And to those that argue that these systems faulty (granted), we should be advocating to improve these systems instead of resorting to killing our youngest Kiwi's. Furthermore, science is in favour of the pro-life position as it supports the notion that life begins at conception and a fetus is a unique human being from that point onward. To argue that it's unde… Read more
Okay, so you argue that rape victims should consider different options before deciding to have an abortion, which is fair. Advocating for the improvement of support systems for pregnant women is certainly important and should be a priority. However, it's essential to recognise that these improvements may not always address the needs/wants of a pregnant individual. Some women simply do not want to have a child and go through birth, meaning the only option is abortion. There are many reasons why someone should choose to have an abortion, and any reason is good enough considering the lifelo… Read more
People should have the right to choose what they do with their body, especially if it puts them at harms risk.
Women, and their families don't take abortion lightly. There are many reasons a woman may consider abortion.
Mental or physical health, finances, lack of support, rape pregnancies, problems with the fetus, are some of the many reasons why abortion may be chosen.
@9G3D63Z2yrs2Y
I believe that people should be allowed the choice, primarily due to rape and sexual assault victims. I also think that if someone is not ready, does not want children, and know they are not going to be a suitable parents that helps avoid trouble to the child's life.
@9G3F4MJ2yrs2Y
two wrongs don't make a right. if you don't want to have a baby don't get pregnant use contraception you are taking a risk and have to deal with the consequences
@9G3DXYK2yrs2Y
I am pro-life. Therefore, I do not support absorption however can understand others in those situations would chose abortion
There is many situations where abortion is appropriate and having a baby could seriously affect people’s lives in a negative way
@9FT843L2yrs2Y
Everyone should have the right to make medical decisions about their own body. We have enough strain on resources without adding more children that may not be able to be cared for emotionally or financially.
@9FV8NT92yrs2Y
It is our basic human right to have autonomy over our body's and be able to make the choice to abort or not.
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